CLASSIC COUNCIL MINUTES – 2/10/07

 

Meeting Called to order: Keith Price (VP-Challenge)

 

Members in attendance: Mike Rottjakob (ABYSA), Bill Furjanic (CFYSA), Bill Finneyfrock (CUFC), Don Strein (FCCA), Steve McCoy (FVAA), Stephen Crane (GUSC), Gary Olive (KSA) and (PTFC), Richard Reed (NBASA), Steve Gigliotti (PSA) and (PTFC), Brent Sloan (SASL), Jim O’Boyle (SCSA), Pete Polonsky (TCYSA)

NCYSA Representatives: Debbie Morton (NCYSA AD Classic), Darae Hamilton (NCYSA AD Challenge), Keith Price (NCYSA VP Challenge), Chris Little (NCYSA Director of Player and Coaching Education)

Association Represented by proxy:  Rusty Scarborough (CASL), Mike Rottjakob (GYSA),

Jeremy Weeks (LNSC), Bryan Thorp (NMYSA), Mark Eustis (OCSA), Doug Shank (TUSA)

Others in attendance: Will Hanson (TASC)

 

Quorum was established.

 

The minutes of December 2, 2006 were voted as approved.

Motion:    Stephen Crane (GUSC)

Seconded:  Steve McCoy (FVAA)

Vote:  Passed

 

Old Business

None discussed

 

New Business

 

Stephen Crane (GUSC) was introduced as our newly elected VP of Classic.  His term will begin in June 2007.  Welcome to Classic!

 

There were two proposals on the agenda for the Classic Council meeting concerning the 90 and 91 older girl’s division restructure.  OCSA and TCYSA submitted proposals.

 

Keith Price instructed the council that the current Promotion/Relegations guidelines were restructured at the Classic council working meeting in August 2005.  The council passed a revision to the older girls bracket on 4/2/2006.  The “new” structure that mirrors the boy’s current structure would begin with the 92 girls this fall and forward.

 

**The following structure for the U15 to U18 women will remain in effect until the current teams age out. At that time the Premier level will increase to a 10-team division. (Passed by the Classic Council 4/2/06)

 

The U15 through U18 divisions will have the following structure:

·         Premier – 8 teams **(see above)

·         1st (statewide) – 10 teams

·         2nd division brackets will be broken up geographically, and will have no less than 7 teams per bracket, and no more than 11 teams per bracket.

 

Keith Price pointed out the differences in the two proposals presented. 

·         OCSA – restructure the 90 and 91 girls’ First division from Statewide (10) to First Division East (8) and First West (8) teams each.

·         TCYSA – same as OCSA but amended OCSA’s proposal to include expansion of the 90 and 91 girl’s Premier division to 10 teams.

 

Mike Rottjakob (ABYSA) stated that the Promotion/Relegation (P/R) committee has the authority to determine bracket or team restructure.  This committee was appointed by the Classic Council April of 2005:  …”The appointed Promotion/Relegation Committee will address situations that arise that are not outlined in the Promotion/Relegation Guidelines.”  (Current P/R Guidelines posted on the Classic main page).

 

This statement was questioned and the Classic Council minutes from April 24, 2005 were read and reviewed.  The following excerpt was noted:

 

…”From the above proposals, the new Promotion/Relegation Guidelines were established, and will be effective immediately as promotion/relegation procedures for bracketing the 2005-2006 seasons and beyond. These guidelines will be available on the Classic main page of the NCYSA website (www.ncsoccer.org) and will be inserted into the updated Handbook for the 2005-2006 season. These guidelines are subject to change any time the Classic Council votes for such a change, and any changes will be updated regularly in the Classic Handbook. The appointed Promotion/ Relegation Committee will address situations that arise that are not outlined in the Promotion/Relegation Guidelines.”

 

After discussion, it was determined that currently any ‘bracket structure’ changes that occur to the existing P/R guidelines will need the vote and approval of the Classic Council.

 

An open discussion concerning the bracket restructure for the 90 and 91 girl’s divisions touched on many concerns:

·         Changes to these divisions needs to be studied carefully for the future of the teams.

·         Girl’s teams at these age groups are not as strong as the boy’s counterparts in the same age divisions, in both number strength and competitive levels.

·         Formation of a national team for next year could affect the number of teams in premier division.

·         Concerns of statewide travel for first division vs. regional travel for first division.

·         Necessity of posting the P/R brackets by March of 2007 in time for associations to prepare for tryouts in late May/early June.

·         Concerns expressed that there has not been any significant changes to the brackets since August of 2006 when this issue of restructuring of the older girls was brought before the council and tabled.

·         Concerns that the number of slots allowed by RIIIPL for North Carolina selected teams is not predetermined each year prior to May and tryouts.  Andre’ Burger (RIIIPL Director) spoke to the council.  North Carolina is guaranteed two slots for RIIIPL, however, the NC teams are becoming stronger and therefore, the panel is selecting more NC teams.   This process is not completed until July/August.  For further explanations or questions it was suggested that Jeff Thomas, RIIIPL Representative for NC, be contacted.

·         Concerns for the reduction in the number of matches played if the First division was reduced to two (8) team brackets East and West.  The number of team participating would increase, but the number of matches would decrease.

·         Concerns that increasing the number of teams in First division could possible cause Second division to become ‘statewide’.  Until the Intents to play are received by NCYSA, the number of teams participating in an age division is unknown.

·         Tournament concerns if the First division is “too big” and not the “top” teams of this bracket.

 

It was determined that the TCYSA proposal (Pete Polonsky) was not submitted and posted on the agenda website within the 30-day time limit.  This did not give associations ample time to discuss this proposal with their clubs and get feedback on their thoughts or concerns.  This proposal was withdrawn and not voted on.

 

The Classic Council made a motion to vote on the OCSA proposal by a roll call vote.

Motion:    Steve Gigliotti (PSA)

Second:  Jim O’Boyle (SCSA)

 

 

 

PROPOSAL:

To change the structure of the 90 and 91 older girls’ First division bracket from one Statewide 10 team division to two First division brackets of East – 8 teams and West – 8 teams.   This would be effective for Fall 2007.

 

Motion passed: Roll call votes     27 Yes

                                                           9 No

 

The Promotion/Relegation for the 90 and 91 girls will be redone by Debbie Morton and sent to the P/R committee for their approval.

 

 

Announcements

Debbie Morton made the following announcements for NCYSA Classic.

·        Three associations still have outstanding fines that need to be paid for Spring 2007.

·        The team packets containing match reports/Spring directories/ and letter for the majority of the associations were mailed on Friday, February 9th.  The remaining will be mailed early Monday, February 12th along with the Association packets.

·        “TBA” matches and rescheduled/rain-out matches must have the new information handwritten on the match reports before being sent to the NCYSA office.  The match scores will not be posted if this updated information is not on the match report – date, time, and pitch.

·        Concern for the number of rescheduled matches that are already coming into the office.  Poor planning???  Only 54 reschedules were reported for fall of 2006.  All changes must be sent to the Arbiter rep and referee assignors need to be aware of these changes.  One change causes 5 other changes!  The NCYSA office is NOT being notified of all reschedules that are taking place!  If your team does not receive approval from Classic, your teams may be charged for those referee fees for the original match.  One change causes 5 other changes!!!!

·        Referee assignors will assign matches to referees on WEDNESDAY prior to the weekend’s scheduled matches. Therefore to cancel a match “the week of” cannot happen!

·        The NCYSA office will be “closed” Monday, February 19th for the staff to re-organize and clean.  All emails and phone calls will be addressed on Tuesday, the 20th.

·        The next Classic Council meeting will be on June 9, 2007 directly after the Challenge Council meeting.

 

Meeting Adjourned.

 

 

Minutes were respectfully taken by Darae Hamilton, (NCYSA Assistant Director of Challenge) and submitted by Debbie Morton (NCYSA Assistant Director of Classic)