March 10, 2002
State Office, Greensboro
Challenge Council was called to order by Grant Underhill at 10:07 a.m. In lieu of taking roll, an attendance sheet was signed by all
participants. This sheet has been
included as a separate attachment.
was established that we had a quorum to conduct any business that might come
before the council (7 associations / clubs represented).
Underhill welcomed Bill Furjanic, NCYSA Director of Coaching.
Bill presented the region Directors of Coaching proposal to endorse
small-sided games in each state so that it could eventually be implemented
Kepley (Tri-FC) stated that Triangle Futbol Club his club already implements the
small-sided game. The only draw
back was that teams could not play against another club if that club did not
also play small-sided. Overall, Tim
felt that the small-sided game was a step in the right direction.
Vranek (NMYSA) expressed concerns about how small-sided games would impact his
association: increase in the numbers of fields and coaches, decrease in the
number of players involved. Robert
felt that his player’s interest and participation peaked at age 11,12,13.
At this age player’s want to play “real soccer” as opposed to
Singer (President NCYSA) noted that soccer is local and differs from one
association to another. The
small-sided game could work for one association and be more difficult another.
Underhill (NCYSA VP Challenge) thanked Bill Furjanic for his presentation to
Challenge Cup Business
Moore (Deputy Director NCYSA) discussed a proposal passed at Classic Council to
add a Women’s “B” Cup, as it would affect the dates of Fall Women’s
Challenge Cup. The following
suggestions were made for Fall Women’s Cup:
could host their own Final Four not in conjunction with Snickers Final Four
could have two preliminary weekends and follow in with Snickers for Final Four
could host prelimns and then skip one or two weekends before having finals with
motion was made by Dave Stump (GYSA) and 2nd by Dave Miller (PSA):
The NCYSA Challenge State Cup for Fall Girls Preliminary Round will be held the
weekend before Thanksgiving. The
NCYSA Challenge State Cup Finals will be held in conjunction with the Snickers
NCYSA State Cup Fall Final Four and the NCYSA “B” State Cup for Fall Girls,
the second weekend after Thanksgiving. Amended
Motion: The NCYSA Challenge State Cup for Fall Girls Preliminary Round will be
held TWO weekends before Thanksgiving (November 16-17 in 2002). The NCYSA
Challenge State Cup Finals will be held in conjunction with the Snickers NCYSA
State Cup Fall Final Four and the NCYSA “B” State Cup for Fall Girls, the
second weekend after Thanksgiving (the first weekend after Thanksgiving weekend-
December 7-8, 2002). There was no
further discussion and the motion passed unanimously.
Underhill (NCYSA) thanked New Bern Area Soccer Association, Twin City Soccer
Association, and Greensboro Youth Soccer Association for hosting the
Preliminaries and Finals of the Challenge Cup.
also discussed the split of age groups to specific preliminary sites for the
spring cup. His comments were to
clear up any confusion about why certain age groups where assigned to each
sites. Grant stated that this was
to insure an equal number of teams for each host site, thus being fair to each
was further discussion led by Dave Stump (GYSA) about an East/ West concept for
Challenge Cup in the future. Council
made request to put this issue on the June Council agenda, so that research
could be done on the matter and a questionnaire sent out to participating teams.
Looking at NCYSA Recreation State Cup’s East/West concept was a
suggested as a means of researching this concept.
Villalobos (NCYSA) discussed items left out of the Challenge Handbook concerning
U10 (8 vs 8) soccer.
was noted that the Challenge Handbook makes no mention of the maximum numbers of
players that can be rostered on a U10 team.
In addition, the handbook indicates that U10 teams play 30-minute halves
as opposed to the correct time of 25 minutes.
motion was made by Tim Kepley (Tri-FC), 2nd by Dave Stump (GYSA), for
a change to be in the Challenge handbook to reflect that U10 (8 vs 8) soccer
plays 25 minute halves and the maximum number of players that can be rostered is
14. The motion was passed
unanimously, with no further discussion.
Associate Membership-Challenge Scheduling Leagues
Robinson (NCYSA) and Rachel Jones (NCYSA) discussed the benefits of Challenge
Scheduling bodies being associate members of NCYSA.
A list of benefits put together by NCYSA staff was handed out.
was a short question and answer period for council members to get a better
understanding of the definition of Associate member as well as it’s benefits.
One example included the ability to host an NCYSA sanctioned tournament
as a League.
Kepley (Tri-FC) explained his scheduling body’s resistance to becoming a
member. The cost of joining and a
loss of the League’s flexibility were two reasons given.
members found information handed out and discussed to be very helpful and stated
that they would share this information with their scheduling leagues.
Business items discussed. Mari
Villalobos (NCYSA) made a note that for this 2001-2002 seasonal year there were
25 Classic to Challenge Transfers and 150 Challenge to Challenge Transfers.
members questioned the larger number of transfers and requested that research be
done to get an idea of why so many players transfer.
Robinson (NCYSA Executive Director) asked council what their position was team
comprised of mostly Challenge players playing on teams in Recreation state cup.
This prompted discussion by council members.
Grant Underhill suggested that members think about this issue and come
prepared to discuss it in June as an agenda item.
made by Tim Kepley (Tri-FC), 2nd Dave Stump (GYSA) to adjourn at
March 10, 2002
1. Jim Kelly Asheville-Buncombe Youth Soccer Association
2. Dave Stump Greensboro Youth Soccer Association
3. David Miller Piedmont Soccer Alliance
4. Tim Kepley Triangle Futbol Club
5. Lee Lyles Charlotte Soccer Club
6. Robert Baldwin Wings of Wilkes
7. Robert Vance North Meck Youth Soccer Association
9. Mari Villalobos Assistant Director Challenge, NCYSA
10. Bill Furjanic Director of Coaching, NCYSA
11. Rachel Jones Administrative Manager, NCYSA
12. Kathy Robinson Executive Director, NCYSA
13. Bob Singer President, NCYSA